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Offline Phidippides

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Will American break apart in next 50 years? Yes, says me
« on: August 09, 2018, 07:22:21 PM »
I have my reasons for this which I should probably detail in a longer-form blog post, but I can't see it ending any other way.  America is doomed to break apart.  The cultural divide is simply too great to sustain a unified nation.  Think of any nation that has emerged through history, and it typically centers around a common culture.  We are entering an age when this common culture still exists, but it is being stretched so far that we are starting to see some cracks. 

Will this end in civil war?  I certainly hope not.  My hope is that some sort of peaceful separation is reached, though this might be a pipe dream.  When it comes down to the details, which side woudl want to give up the rich oil reserves of the South?  Who would get the rich farmland of the Midwest?  What about the major port cities?  This would have such a dramatic impact on the global economy that I have to imagine some people would want to commandeer the division to their choosing. 

But really, what is the alternative?  A single country existing in which one side is content to censor, fine, and probably even jail (or execute) those on the other side of the political spectrum (and if you don't believe me, these kinds of things are already happening, or being suggested)?

Hundreds of years ago people rebelled against political authorities over political disagreements involving autonomy and power disparities.  Today the powers that be have the potential to have vastly more control over the lives of individuals.  That can only last for so long.

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Re: Will American break apart in next 50 years? Yes, says me
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2018, 08:45:27 PM »
Yes America will break apart.  The fractures in American society are becoming more pronounced with each passing day.  It has nothing to do with Donald J. Trump either.  The divides were there to begin with, and the unique figure that Trump is only brings them to the forefront in little jabs and agitations.  The real powder keg issues are abortion, gun control, and gay marriage.  America nearly fell apart during the 1960's and the Vietnam Era still not that long ago.  The Silent Majority who elected Trump have laid down the gauntlet to the Left, and now are emboldened to speak out against political correctness and other rubbish.  On the other side is Antifa, Black Lives Matter, the socialists, and the other fringe alternative leftist groups who cannot stand Christianity or the traditional American heritage/ethos.

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Re: Will American break apart in next 50 years? Yes, says me
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2018, 10:25:35 PM »
As dangerous as Anitifa and some others can be, I think they're actually less dangerous to other on the left who may want to manipulate the American electorate.  I'm thinking of the people who seem to have pulled the strings behind the scenes in the months after the election and before the Inauguration, and then into Trump's Presidency.  It was pretty bad how much leaking went on in those early days, and I can't but help think they were done to help cripple Trump's mandate. 

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Re: Will American break apart in next 50 years? Yes, says me
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2018, 11:40:40 PM »
I'm going to add this story to the mix:

David Horowitz: Visa, Mastercard Cut Off Payments to My Think Tank Based on SPLC ‘Hate Group’ Label

This is alarming because it could signal a trend.  Once a group is deemed a "hate group", it is considered evil and must be destroyed, and the means of doing so are secondary to the goal of destruction.  The trick, of course, is branding your enemy as part of the "hate group" in the first place. 

Could all conservative groups be branded as "hate groups" in the future?  The threshold for being branded as such has fallen to the level that it is now a crime to have fundamental disagreements with the left on issues such as the immorality of homosexual behavior.  I don't see why not. 

If all conservative groups are considered evil, then will companies stop doing business with them?  If Visa and Mastercard won't process your sales, how could you realistically survive?  Could the grocery story decide to stop serving those groups? 

It's a brilliant tactic by the left: defeat your enemies by not by superior ideas, but by making it impossible for them to operate in public. 

This brings to mind the state of the Puritans during the Stuart period, fleeing their homeland to find refuge elsewhere.  Will this happen again?

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Re: Will American break apart in next 50 years? Yes, says me
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2018, 11:15:53 PM »
As long as the right has independent outlets and media personalities like Rush Limbaugh, I don't think there is much the Left can do.  The liberals have always dominated academia, entertainment, and the print/tv media.  The internet is too large for them to totally control and talk radio still has Rush, Hannity, Buchannan, Beck, Carlson, Lahren, etc... to speak on behalf of the Right.  I'm not too worried at this time.  Besides, they are too busy trying to impeach Trump lol.

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Re: Will American break apart in next 50 years? Yes, says me
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2018, 11:22:02 PM »
Victor Davis Hanson has an article out:

Are We on the Verge of Civil War?

He doesn't really answer the question he poses, though.  But what I found great was the first comment by "Vitorious", that begins:
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To my fellow progressives:
If there is a civil war, we need to map a few things out. First, there are more guns in the country than people, we own almost none of them. The other side is well armed and motivated, they actually use their firearms so that's something we need to catch up on...

Funny.

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Re: Will American break apart in next 50 years? Yes, says me
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2018, 01:02:58 PM »
The only hope that the Left would have to win a shooting war would be to take control of the government and use the army against the populace or invite the UN to invade with a coalition of foreign armies.

 

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