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Christian Legacies Main Forum / Re: Early Church Heresies
« Last post by Donald Baker on December 07, 2023, 08:00:24 PM »How about Arianism:
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Christian Legacies Main Forum / Re: Premillennialism
« Last post by Donald Baker on December 07, 2023, 07:53:35 PM »Israel had to be re-established in order for the prophetic timeline to commence. Israel becoming a nation again in 1948 fulfilled the Valley of Dry Bones in Ezekiel Chapter 37. Then, during the 7 Year Tribulation, Israel is surrounded by its enemies which is called the time of Jacob's Trouble.
A great website for understanding prophetic timelines is http://www.thepropheticyears.com. I pretty much agree with the website owner's views on this topic.
A great website for understanding prophetic timelines is http://www.thepropheticyears.com. I pretty much agree with the website owner's views on this topic.
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Christian Legacies Main Forum / Early Church Heresies
« Last post by Phidippides on December 04, 2023, 12:11:02 AM »Can you name any heresies in the first few centuries of Christianity and what they believed (in a nutshell)?
A few are:
A few are:
- Marcianism: believed that God in the New Testament was different from God in the Old Testament because their behavior was not reconcilable.
- Gnosticism: believed in esoteric knowledge held by the few "true believers" and that the Bible's text was to be interpreted symbolically for hidden meaning
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Christian Legacies Main Forum / Re: Premillennialism
« Last post by Phidippides on December 04, 2023, 12:00:18 AM »Wow, ok I think I was thinking it had to do with the existence of the State of Israel as well. I saw a comment on Twitter from a person who said she heard someone talk about some Christians who thought the existence of Israel was a political necessity to precipitate the Coming of Christ, but that she had never heard of any Christians who believed such a theory. I immediately thought of you because I thought you had made such a comment at some point years ago. I thought this fit into "premillennialism", but I could be wrong.
It does make me wonder how the belief by Christians in the theological necessity of Israel's existence has influenced strong Western support for Israel. In fact, I recall that George W. Bush was possibly in this theological camp?
It does make me wonder how the belief by Christians in the theological necessity of Israel's existence has influenced strong Western support for Israel. In fact, I recall that George W. Bush was possibly in this theological camp?
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Christian Legacies Main Forum / Re: Premillennialism
« Last post by Donald Baker on November 09, 2023, 05:44:05 PM »Just saw this post a week after you made it. Sorry.
I lean pre-millennial regarding the Rapture of the Church, however, I think it prudent to be prepared in case we have to go through the Tribulation. But as to whether Jesus will physically return before the Millennial Kingdom, He has to because He shortens the days of the Tribulation otherwise no flesh would survive...meaning He returns and establishes His 1000 year reign. Basically, He descends from Heaven and ends the Battle of Armageddon destroying all who oppose Him with the Brightness of His Coming. The Antichrist and his False Prophet are cast into the Lake of Fire and Satan is bound for the duration of the Millennial Kingdom only to be released again tempting the nations to rebel against Jesus one last time.
What is your take?
I lean pre-millennial regarding the Rapture of the Church, however, I think it prudent to be prepared in case we have to go through the Tribulation. But as to whether Jesus will physically return before the Millennial Kingdom, He has to because He shortens the days of the Tribulation otherwise no flesh would survive...meaning He returns and establishes His 1000 year reign. Basically, He descends from Heaven and ends the Battle of Armageddon destroying all who oppose Him with the Brightness of His Coming. The Antichrist and his False Prophet are cast into the Lake of Fire and Satan is bound for the duration of the Millennial Kingdom only to be released again tempting the nations to rebel against Jesus one last time.
What is your take?
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Christian Legacies Main Forum / Premillennialism
« Last post by Phidippides on November 02, 2023, 11:46:05 PM »Donnie, do you believe in Premillennialism? I thought you said you did a while back but I could be wrong.
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Christian Legacies Main Forum / Re: What is necessary for Catholic/Protestant unification?
« Last post by Donald Baker on May 23, 2023, 09:02:08 PM »Is it considered to be a "bad" thing if a church leaves the Convention? Or is it considered to be "neutral"? In other words, I'm wondering if the goal (either stated or implied) is that Christianity would be better off as a whole if all Christians followed the Convention's doctrines, of if they don't think this isn't an issue.
I think the Southern Baptist Convention leadership would frown on it, but they literally have no authority to keep a church within its ranks. Their oversight is very limited anyway so it's more about keeping connected to the rural churches who need assistance, and of course I'm sure the churches have to pay something into the SBC central funds where it can be redistributed to the more needy churches and outreach programs such as overseas missions programs.
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Christian Legacies Main Forum / Re: What is necessary for Catholic/Protestant unification?
« Last post by Phidippides on May 21, 2023, 05:00:25 PM »Is it considered to be a "bad" thing if a church leaves the Convention? Or is it considered to be "neutral"? In other words, I'm wondering if the goal (either stated or implied) is that Christianity would be better off as a whole if all Christians followed the Convention's doctrines, of if they don't think this isn't an issue.
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Christian Legacies Main Forum / Re: What is necessary for Catholic/Protestant unification?
« Last post by Donald Baker on May 05, 2023, 07:20:13 PM »For there to ever be unity, the RCC must relinquish its claim as the universal head of all churches. Protestant denominations will never accept one supreme authority over them other than Jesus Christ Himself.
Why do you say this? I ask because it seems like each Protestant congregation has to have its own form of authority within itself anyway. While I'm not sure how such congregations are organized or how authority is distributed, certainly someone is making final decisions in regard to theological matters. Couldn't union with the Catholic Church simply be considered in this light?
In other words, when an important theological matter comes up within the Southern Baptists, I assume that there are certain churches within the larger congregation that get to vote on the matter, and people declare that the Church has spoken, correct? Some congregants will like the outcome, while others will not, but everyone is required to follow such a teaching.QuoteAs for theological differences, they would have to be watered down to the point all denominations could accept. Any deviation away from the simplest form of the Gospel would immediately invite Schism.I do realize that theological differences would be particularly difficult to reconcile. Part of this is due to cultural associations tied to theology that is not easy to break. My guess is that this would be the easiest with denominations that already have some existing theological beliefs that are someone similar to what the Catholic Church holds.
For Southern Baptists, they are part of a Convention which churches can voluntarily join or leave at their leisure. When they opt not to join or decide to leave, they lose access to the Convention's subsidies and resources. Of course if they remain a member, they have to follow the doctrinal orthodoxy established by the Convention. I think it is very similar with the other Baptist denominations. Presbyterians have Synods. I'm not sure about the other Protestant Churches.